Was Paul a misogynst and a liar? He said that this was Jesus’s command.
Jesus’s teaching on divorce — Matthew 5:32, Matthew 19:9, Mark 10:11-12, Luke 16:18
Paul’s teaching on divorce — 1 Corinthians 7:10-11
March 30, 2010
Why did Paul teach that women can never divorce, yet Jesus taught that men could divorce unfaithful wives?
Was Paul a misogynst and a liar? He said that this was Jesus’s command.
Jesus’s teaching on divorce — Matthew 5:32, Matthew 19:9, Mark 10:11-12, Luke 16:18
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because he was bored.
Comment by Anonymous — April 1, 2010 @ 10:39 am
We need to ban divorce immediately unless its for biblical reasons.
Comment by Anonymous — April 4, 2010 @ 10:32 am
It helps greatly to give chapter and verse when you ask questions like this.
Paul was for reconciliation if possible.
Comment by Anonymous — April 7, 2010 @ 2:42 am
Paul never said that women could never divorce. You are reading your own personal prejudice into the Bible.
1 Corinthians 7:10ff says nothing about divorce or remarriage. A woman was supposed to stay with her husband (and vice versa – no sexism here) if he was willing to stay there and endure the persecution that was coming. If he left, she wasn’t given permission to depart from God.
Comment by Anonymous — April 10, 2010 @ 6:14 am
Paul never said that was Jesus’ commanded, he said that God gave him permission to add HIS (Paul’s) thoughts on the matter (so to speak)
you need to read a bit more closely.
Comment by Anonymous — April 11, 2010 @ 4:39 pm
He said you should not, can not is different. He wanted people be as he was- alone. If you did decide to marry, he thought it should be for life.
Comment by Anonymous — April 12, 2010 @ 2:11 am
Please direct me to these scriptures you are basing your question from. I would like to see exactly what you have read before I can answer.
Comment by Anonymous — April 12, 2010 @ 8:22 am
EVERYONE…NO EXCEPTIONS…..TEACHES WHAT THEY ARE CONVINCED IS RIGHT
Comment by Anonymous — April 15, 2010 @ 1:41 pm
Both Paul and Jesus were sexists. Period.
Comment by Anonymous — April 16, 2010 @ 1:26 pm
It’s because the bible is inconsistent, period. Many things conflict with each other in the bible and others are considered outdated.
Go by common sense, not what a book (written by MEN, not god) says.
Comment by Anonymous — April 17, 2010 @ 6:04 am
Paul abondoned the law, he thought it would be an obstacle to gentiles accepting the new religion. it is these compromises that have lead christians astray, and blinded them from the final messenger sent to mankind, Muhammad (peace be upon him)
Comment by Anonymous — April 19, 2010 @ 10:38 am
Jesus said that? As for Paul, he did a lot of good for the church but i don’t agree with a lot of what he said. Where exactly did Jesus say this?
Comment by Anonymous — April 21, 2010 @ 10:28 pm
Paul wrote several years after Jesus had died. Jesus came form a jewish tradition, Paul was a rich roman citizen. They never met personally. Paul was not a disciple. He was supposedly inspired by spirit to write his letters. So, with all due respect, Pauls’ writings do not reflect Jesus’ teachings.
Comment by Anonymous — April 22, 2010 @ 6:24 pm
Nowhere does it say God ever condoned diviorce but allowed it only in one case, that of adultery, but only because of the stiff necked people, stubborn ones, that insisted on it. But then only in the case of adultery and even then it was not mandatory that you divorce. God made marriage to be for a lifetime, hence, “till DEATH do us part”. Never was meant to be just till I get tired of you or till I get what I want from you. So Paul was correct that women or men should never divorce as it is supposed to be a life committment. Jesus just told the thing that the bull headed ones wanted but only with the adultery. NOt what was originally planned but the only case that it would be permitted. So both were correct in their teachings.
Comment by Anonymous — April 25, 2010 @ 8:46 pm
DONT U KNOW IT YET.
THE FOUNDER OF CHRISTIANITY IS PAUL , NOT JESUS.
PAUL IS A JEW FROM TARSUS WHO INITIALLY ENEMY OF JESUS.
THEN SUDDENLY HE CLAIMED TO HAV A VISION AND HEARING VOICE ALLEGING JESUS ENLIGHTENED HIM.
PAUL ADD AND THROW SOME OF THE BIBLE PASSAGES THAT SUITED HIM.
Comment by Anonymous — April 26, 2010 @ 3:44 am
You are misquoting Jesus.
Matthew 19: Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”
I know that God hates divorce:
Malachi 2:16 TNIV
“I hate divorce,” says the LORD God of Israel, “and I hate it when people clothe themselves with injustice,” says the LORD Almighty. So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful.
I don’t see 1 Corinthians 7 as a contradiction of these scriptures. It seems like Paul is saying that you should never risk offending God through unfaithfulness or divorce. What I see is Jesus tightening up the restrictions that the Jews formerly had on divorce and Paul being even more cautious.
In the case of unfaithfulness. I believe that God would have us even then try to be reconciled because we have been forgiven. And don’t think I am not speaking from experience either.
Comment by Anonymous — April 27, 2010 @ 8:33 pm
I do think Paul disliked women and felt threatened by them. Was he a liar? maybe he ‘believed’ he was repeating what Jesus said but I doubt that. Jesus loved. Pure and simple. Jesus would not want a woman being abused to stay with her abuser and just take it.
Comment by Anonymous — April 30, 2010 @ 4:58 am
Jesus taught what? Ok, normally I HATE answers that parrot a section of bible, but I think you’re not quite getting the whole story here. Specifically, I refer to Chapter 19 of Matthew.
The pharisees test Jesus by asking if it is lawful for a man to divorce his wife. Jesus quotes Genesis:
4And He answered and said, “Have you not read (E)that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5and said, ‘(F)for this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and (G)the two shall become one flesh
The pharisees then charge why Moses deemed it lawful to divorce.
8He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way. 9″And I say to you, (I)whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”
Doesn’t exactly sound like he’s condoning it. Earlier in Matthew, Jesus said that if a man divorces his wife, he forces HER to commit adultery, but from these passages, it is clear that Jesus’s teaching is that both the husband and wife are sinning in a state of divorce.
Comment by Anonymous — April 30, 2010 @ 9:41 pm
This is the problem with all religions. One part says one thing about something and another part says something totally different. If these writings actually came from god then there would be no confusion about what they mean. All religions would have exactly the same verses. Since all religions are created by man and not god then different men or woman had different ideas at different times in history. Religious leaders interpret the writings to suit their own beliefs and wants. The Pope is a very good example of that one. Then the clerics of Islam do the same to suit what they want. It is better to really got to know you and understand just who you are and then make the best of what you have to work with. The gals of this world should have exactly the same rites as the guys do. To say one is inferior is wrong.
Comment by Anonymous — May 2, 2010 @ 11:14 pm
Because Paul was an idiot.
He never really stopped being Saul of Tarsus.
He just gained new laws.
Comment by Anonymous — May 5, 2010 @ 12:20 pm